The 1st 'Affordable' Almost IBM PC Compatible | Nostalgia Nerd

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Click skl.sh/nostalgianerd to explore your creativity and get 2 free months of Skillshare's Premium Membership..... Today's video is all about IBM PC Compatibles, and more significantly the Sanyo MBC-550/MBC-555 computers, which changed the this compatible world for the better, back in 1983. You see, before this Sanyo machine, it was unthinkable to buy an IBM PC or IBM PC Compatible for less than $1k. But Sanyo flipped the market on it's head, by doing just that. Let's take a look at the history of this impressive machine, and then get to grips with it ourselves.
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  • Huge thanks to LGR for lending his voice; seworld.info If you're interested in find more about this era of PCs, you might find these videos compelling; LGR - Tandy 1000: seworld.info/will/o5nQzKivbaR6tnGk/video 8 Bit Guy - Sanyo MBC-775: seworld.info/will/m63M1Z26pGV4uac/video Modern Classic - IBM PC: seworld.info/will/ZojHyq-zaXZzrHk/video

    Nostalgia NerdNostalgia Nerd9 månader sedan
    • If it wasn't for the accents I'd swear Clint and Nostalgia Nerd were the same channels

      Patrick GlaserPatrick Glaser25 dagar sedan
    • You were NOT using the original floppies without copying them first, were you... WERE you? That's some luck, really. They could last for another 100 years, or they can break in the very next second. You KNOW this, RIGHT? :)

      ностромовностромовMånad sedan
    • @Jimmy Yao same lol, cos I subscribed both

      S.S.Månad sedan
    • Song I.D @8:30 please? Because it's amazing.

      Daniel MDaniel M4 månader sedan
    • I'm so happy that there's no 60hz whine

      PenguiinoPenguiino5 månader sedan
  • the " around affordable should be in bold

    Space fish AviationSpace fish Aviation10 dagar sedan
  • Ah .. keyboard with spiral cable .. what a nostalgia ...

    boulderbash19700209boulderbash1970020911 dagar sedan
  • say haloo to my litte fremd 🤣🤣🍻

    jayrock4yajayrock4ya18 dagar sedan
  • sanyo made some amazing nicad batteries and i guess there legacy now is the eneloop low self discharge cells

    Justin MJustin M21 dag sedan
  • They couldn't even deny they made hi-fi before this :D

    Electro PotatoElectro Potato23 dagar sedan
  • This was a great episode. I love learning about these obscure, forgotten computers that paved the way for what we have today. The more obscure, the better I like it. Thanks Nostalgia Nerd!

    realtriskrealtrisk25 dagar sedan
  • I find it amazing that our PCs nowadays with over 32GB of RAM and CPUs beyond 1000x more powerful than the 8086/8088 to this day are STILL mostly compatible with the original IBM standard! If you have a BIOS that supports legacy BIOS, you can still boot into DOS and run games and programs from the 80s mostly without problems either! Heck I tried this recently. Was able to run Alley Cat under FreeDOS on my Ryzen 7 3700x build, and my RTX 2080 still supports CGA!

    InfinitieInfinitie29 dagar sedan
  • @23:33 that's not the original rom!

    Murray SmithMurray Smith29 dagar sedan
  • Why does it show a schematic of an amplifier when describing writing a clean-room BIOS? :)

    Michael RosenfeldMichael RosenfeldMånad sedan
    • Because that's the page of the BIOS manual which looked most interesting.

      Nostalgia NerdNostalgia NerdMånad sedan
  • Last comment here, if anyone ever reads. :D In the 1980s computer magazines were publishing how to build and repair your computer and in the 21st century Apple wanted to NOT allow anyone but them to repair Apple devices. Talk about rip-off artists. Never, ever, never have I given them $1, nor I ever will.

    ностромовностромовMånad sedan
  • 3:37 What the fuck is this? $570 for a disk drive and $270 for a keyboard? IBM deserved to go under, LOL

    ностромовностромовMånad sedan
  • 4:33 Don't remember those IBM PC's that used valves.

    FrikinOSMFrikinOSMMånad sedan
  • Had an MBC555-2 as my first PC. I was able to do what I needed at the office with the MicroPro suite. Having Wordstar included with the computer was quite the bargain at the time. With the Sanyo keyboard you could be quite productive.

    Brian DavidsonBrian DavidsonMånad sedan
  • $999 is a psychological number :D And the body design looks like a Hi-Fi stereo system :D

    Nash GoldNash GoldMånad sedan
  • At 10:38 - "Speaker: Beep."

    T SimchakT Simchak2 månader sedan
  • 13:25 "floppy insertion" Since this is MBC-555, having dual drive, we can talk about double penetration, hence BOOM, YOU'RE VIOLATING SEworld REGULATIONS! DEMONETIZED! XD

    Kwaq84Kwaq842 månader sedan
  • I remember considering it when it came out, but the keyboard layout (I'm a touch-typist) decided me against it.

    John SavardJohn Savard2 månader sedan
  • If the composite output is lacking color, then why is there even a 3.58MHz clock to begin with?

    Blake BelladonnaBlake Belladonna2 månader sedan
  • I had one of these, it was a novelty and that was the extent of it's use.

    Justin GreyJustin Grey2 månader sedan
  • A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

    Jose VelezJose Velez2 månader sedan
  • 12:25/27:09 Time Bandit... That's pretty much the only reason this computer existed, right? Surf Wisely.

    dolstdolst2 månader sedan
  • Looks better than most PCs from that era

    Mr. OuijaMr. Ouija2 månader sedan
  • 1980s: "Only $1000" 2020: "Only $700 for the thing you make phone calls on!" Me: I wish new phones didn't cost so much

    RenfrikusRenfrikus2 månader sedan
    • And that was in 1980's dollars. If you adjust that for inflation, that means even this "affordable" PC was about $2,658. With most PCs being in the $2,000 to $3,000 range, that translates to $5,342 to $8,014 for an average PC. God DAMN, computers were expensive back then.

      Mário ĎuráčMário Ďuráč2 månader sedan
  • bios on diskette sounds familiar to an A1000 user ... 😁

    CCfiftyeightCCfiftyeight3 månader sedan
  • Very nice Case!

    CCfiftyeightCCfiftyeight3 månader sedan
  • It looks like someone has jammed two floppy drives into a VCR. LOL. I knew I recognised that voice.

    Franko WalkerFranko Walker3 månader sedan
  • At 8:25 the captions say "Synth me up boi" xD

    sh3snottheresh3snotthere3 månader sedan
  • The PC Jr ALSO had cartridge ports! HAHAHAHAHA

    cAPSlOCKrOXXcAPSlOCKrOXX3 månader sedan
  • Who made the music in this video?

    Klaus ArchitectKlaus Architect3 månader sedan
  • 9:45 function keys have pf rather than f written on it

    Einstein WallahEinstein Wallah3 månader sedan
    • That's because they're Program Function keys.

      gwishartgwishart2 månader sedan
  • Chyrosran22 is going to want that keyboard, leaf springs, super nice caps. Extra function keys. Mmmmm.

    Maarten BodewesMaarten Bodewes3 månader sedan
  • Western Markets....and Australian? - you know Australia is part of the west?

    Francis TaylorFrancis Taylor3 månader sedan
  • Woah, this case would make an excellent sleeper HTPC, that fits perfectly in a nice HiFi System from the 80s...

    Nico LocatelliNico Locatelli3 månader sedan
  • It’s always so weird to think that as a just-post-millennium child that this used to be _the stuff_ in computing. Like my computer, literally thousands of times faster with millions of more bytes to its name cost a third of this PC

    Jonathan FaberJonathan Faber4 månader sedan
  • Man I forgot that we weren't using GUI in the early 80s....what a nightmare.

    Michael TimpsonMichael Timpson4 månader sedan
  • "How do I exit!?" ^K^Q

    Daniel Jesús Valencia SánchezDaniel Jesús Valencia Sánchez4 månader sedan
  • I remember reading a magazine article about a hack it to improve the 256k maximum installed base memory of a MBC-555 to 512k by literally soldering memory chips piggybacked onto the existing ones, with a couple of other leads for addressing.

    Gary XHLCGary XHLC4 månader sedan
  • I had a secondhand MBC-555, in 1989. It got ripped off from the rooming house I was staying in :'(

    Gary XHLCGary XHLC4 månader sedan
  • One of these was my intro to the 'PC'. I was working at a TV company in '84 and they traded the 555 for a TV but didn't know what to do with it.. I managed to trim down the DOS to just what was required and used Datastar and Reportstar to set up a computer system for keeping track of rentals. Each week they'd add/remove rentals and run a report that would print out new invoices and give a report on who to chase up. In the process it moved from the A drive to the B drive, effectively giving a backup, with the new weeks status in the B drive and last weeks in the A drive. It started my IT career, which is still going today.

    gadgetman_nzgadgetman_nz4 månader sedan
  • That’s a beautiful case, I’d love to put a gaming set up in a case that beautiful. Wonder if you can cram a 2080 in there.

    BAgodmodeBAgodmode4 månader sedan
  • I love that keyboard.

    Das BerserkerDas Berserker4 månader sedan
  • Gotta say, there's something quite nice about Sanyo using that "Hi-Fi component" look for their PC clone.

    eddiehimselfeddiehimself4 månader sedan
  • How is 995 (2500 with inflation) "affordable"

    Jacob PuvanJacob Puvan4 månader sedan
  • I like the HiFi equipment look of this thing.

    xn0xn04 månader sedan
  • The good old days where mechanical keyboards were good and cheap.

    Fox DavionFox Davion4 månader sedan
  • 19:29 Syntax error in 20 :(

    Dawi From Another HoldDawi From Another Hold5 månader sedan
  • Sanyo were always Quality. Runners up to Sony for desirability.

    Simon GillsSimon Gills5 månader sedan
  • Why did you put the newer Sanyo logo in the thumbnail, and why did you put your username in the title...? It's already stated...

    RWL2012RWL20125 månader sedan
  • I miss Byte magazine so much. I remember as a child in the 80s looking forward to my mom bringing the latest issue from the news stand.

    Nelson CabreraNelson Cabrera5 månader sedan
  • 9:57 wiped everything except the back and the monitor and the cords! Keyboard cord. 🥴😑 bottoms. Nor the books. 📚

    Preston Cheap BT headphones test guyPreston Cheap BT headphones test guy5 månader sedan
  • The MBC 555 was my first business computer back in the 1980,s and have great memories of it. Many years later I saw one on Ebay and bought it. Stripped out the entire guts of it and the rear panel.It was just a shell. I fitted a modern motherboard, a switchmode PSU and a modern backplane. It now runs Linux Mint. Runs a 1TB H/D and 2Gb RAM! Only a nerd would do this!

    Phill CobraPhill Cobra5 månader sedan
  • Dayum.. my first PC after owning an Atari 800XL .. piggybacked the memory to 640kb instead of the standard 256kb .

    doktermobieldoktermobiel5 månader sedan
  • get round to grandma's and pinch her knitting pattens

    Terence EdwardsTerence Edwards5 månader sedan
  • 26:06 same can be said for Japanese cars.

    Morahman7vnNo2Morahman7vnNo25 månader sedan
  • 30 years later still looks new, no retrobrite required

    m yum yu5 månader sedan
  • Almost any PC was affordable back then, if you wanted a bare to the bones, no frills PC. By the time you got adding upgrades to make it a decent PC, you could be looking at a 5K investment.

    Sphinx RisingSphinx Rising5 månader sedan
  • To exit WordStar: control k q hehe _:)

    Bryan ChanceBryan Chance6 månader sedan
  • Looks like a VCR.

    DoctorCrankyFlapsDoctorCrankyFlaps6 månader sedan
  • Not only did I own one of these, I sold them. At the time I worked in Computer Dept of London Drugs here in Canada (kind of a mini Walmart before Walmart became Walmart).

    Stephen AndersonStephen Anderson6 månader sedan
  • I remember back in my YTS days in 1988 my training centre had one of these amongst the other pc's and people would try to get in early to snag this as it was so much snappier to use than the other machines in wordperfect. The fact it was silver was also a bonus as silver electronic things were much cooler in the 80's

    bunter6bunter66 månader sedan
  • Nice looking machine.

    rager1969rager19696 månader sedan
  • Haha.. That computer looks very much like the VCRs Sanyo was making at the time. Actually, the silver plastic look was very popular in most of consumer electronics back then... Silver plastic and fake wood accents... Classy!

    MosstoneMosstone6 månader sedan
  • Oh god please don't stretch 4:3 images to 16:9 it looks horrid man

    Chris EveleyChris Eveley7 månader sedan
  • Wordstar was my moms favorite word processor. She was so attached to it that i was tasked with getting it working on all new family computers every time we upgraded. I didnt get her to give up on it until windows XP!

    nottiificationnottiification7 månader sedan
  • I don't see the relevance to the comparison of the NTSC 3.579MHz subcarrier and the processor running at 3.6MHz since it doesn't support NTSC composite output anyway or did you mean the processor clock IS derived from an NTSC burst crystal?. Also we can see 5(10) function keys up the side of the keyboard, how do they relate to the "6" function keys you mentioned which need to be accessed via a second key. Cheers.

    Ingmar MIngmar M7 månader sedan
  • Nope, I had one when they were dumped and it was MSDOS compatible. It was not sold as PC compatible. You could make it more compatible by wiring in a CGA card. But still the keyboard protocol and other stuff was different, so even then a lot of PC low level software didn't work.

    almerianalmerian7 månader sedan
  • I picked up one of these at a hock shop's garbage bin for $5 around 1992. They couldn't get it to work, but I was able to copy a Sanyo boot disk from a college mate and it was good to go.

    Da40kOrksDa40kOrks8 månader sedan
  • Caps Lock and Control are arranged like that because Sanyo is a Japanese company and Japanese keyboards have this messed up arrangement of Caps Lock and Control (even today)

    RafałRafał8 månader sedan
  • Interesting video! Shame about the silly music during the first half though... :-(

    31TimM31TimM8 månader sedan
  • Well, I can't make it through all the comments before I write something. But I had one of these from HS through college. It actually had better than CGA graphics, in that it was 640 x 200 (NOT 400 as he said in the video), but with 8 colors (3 bits per pixel). 16K was taken from the user's ram for this, and 32K of RAM came from elsewhere; the same 3 bits made up shades of grey and blinking through the composite connection. Unfortunately, the access to the graphics was poorly documented, at least as far as I could find. The system was ALWAYS in graphics mode, the characters you see are "painted" into the graphics memory by the bios. There was some form of hardware assist for scrolling. The speaker was connected to the transmit side of the UART (serial port) that received the keypress info from the keyboard; without special programming, it would always be lower in frequency, and sounded like a buzzer, or a fart, or stepping on a frog. I eventually upgraded from a single sided, 160K floppy drive, to two dual sided drives at 360K each. Some people had hard drives I guess. And I had the CGA compatible video adapter as well, which made a lot of things work, but the keyboard differences still caught you sometimes.

    Steve WahlSteve Wahl8 månader sedan
  • i have one of these. mine wouldn't boot up

    Paulo ConstantinoPaulo Constantino8 månader sedan
  • Awesome video, great research! The first IBM PC Compatibles I was able to use at home was my sisters Leading Edge PC and my fathers Victor VPCII PC. This was in 1985-86. My first experience at all with IBM PC's was my friends parents business, they had an original IBM 5150 with a 20MB HD and CGA graphics, this was in '83-84.

    Jason Daniel StoneJason Daniel Stone8 månader sedan
  • What a blast from the past! The look and sound really took me back. My father used a Sanyo MBC-555 at work. He used it exclusively for WordStar, so its unique qualities weren’t an issue, but its limits compared to our home XT surprised me.

    RetroViatorRetroViator8 månader sedan
  • 21:00 So you have a database application. Where would the data be stored? On another floppy?

    Roaming AdhocratRoaming Adhocrat8 månader sedan
  • They said that lunch at the IBM canteen was only $5… plus $2 each for the optional knife, fork, and plate.

    Roaming AdhocratRoaming Adhocrat8 månader sedan
  • I remember my dad got one of these as part of an NRI computer course, and my little sister and I eagerly went to the grocery store to buy a game on a 5 1/4" floppy. Brought it home, it didn't work, returned it (yes, they allowed that!), tried another, didn't work, returned it, tried Zork. Zork worked. It was our first PC game we ever played. Little did we know that our poor little Sanyo didn't even have a graphics card!

    Matthew MMatthew M8 månader sedan
  • wow, thanks for this video, so well done! this machine was my first computer when I was in my early 20s, and it's where I learned how to use spreadsheets, word processors, database programs, it was pivotal in the skill set I was later able to offer. GREAT video!!

    John IrvinJohn Irvin8 månader sedan
  • Only 999 years until the next reset

    christmas pixels'christmas pixels'9 månader sedan
  • The year is now 1995

    christmas pixels'christmas pixels'9 månader sedan
  • I miss the days of beige plastic

    shamshlamshamshlam9 månader sedan
  • Love the look of it! More PC stuff should look like stereo gear :P

    Roger SkagerströmRoger Skagerström9 månader sedan
  • they really wanted to sell a lot of computers with that price

    MsJinkersonMsJinkerson9 månader sedan
  • 👍👍👍

    scaleop4scaleop49 månader sedan
  • Jesus, can't "her highness" move her arse away for one shot?

    kaczan3kaczan39 månader sedan
  • So that's where that keyboard came from! Chyrosran22 did a review of it a while back.

    DesmaadDesmaad9 månader sedan
  • I have a Sanyo Telly thats almost exactly the same as that monitor, bought it to run my Amiga on in 1990. Was still working last time I powered it up a couple of years ago!

    montarionmontarion9 månader sedan
  • Stop telling people to buy ships, i need crew for my Carrack! :P

    EnderEnder9 månader sedan
  • I found the original IBM PC nothing more than a fancy typewriter. Somewhat useful with a dialup service, but very limited and prohibitly costly (per minute charge). Accessing mainframes with Procomm was about as valuable as it can get.

    BillyBobBillyBob9 månader sedan
  • In 1986 I bought an IBM-PC from my inherence before I lost everything in the 1987 stock market crash. I only wound up dialing bulletin boards. I only wrote one program in basic, and only because I could read about every command on paper in detail. I only had the computer for around a year. I have done nothing more with programming. I want to learn to program a little. That is my starting point. I am 66 years old and have Social Security Disability as Mentally Disabled as my sole means of support (I don't get enough to live on). How may I proseed?

    gerard praetzgerard praetz9 månader sedan
  • Really appreciate the effort that you put into the captions (Soothing stroking sounds 😂). I hate watching auto-generated ones, nice to know that hard of hearing/deaf viewers aren't being left behind.

    petrolhead1987petrolhead19879 månader sedan
  • The PC that's built in a VCR case!

    WowplayerMeWowplayerMe9 månader sedan
  • What's the music at the end? Has me bopping my head. Also i can't believe they used to have such HUGE manuals back then & now devices don't come with large manuals if any at all probably because nobody read them

    referral madnessreferral madness9 månader sedan
  • Great background music... Love it..

    5argeTech /\5argeTech /\9 månader sedan
  • I thought you sounded different.....

    Frank BFrank B9 månader sedan
  • Did they even have a CGA expansion card at the time? I thought they were all onboard, and you'd expand to an EGA card (if they existed in that time)

    ChillCosmosChillCosmos9 månader sedan
  • The base unit actually looks like a VCR.

    Ion-SHIVsIon-SHIVs9 månader sedan
  • I love this Japanese design philosophy, everything looks like a piece of HiFi equipment

    EnnarEnnar9 månader sedan
  • I used to have a GoldStar (now LG) IBM PS/2 clone. It had Intel 386SX/16MHz, 1MB DRAM, and 40MB HDD, for $2k in 1990. I believe it had Pheonix BIOS. The machine had absolutely no compatibility issues. At the time, if one wanted to buy a real IBM PS/2 for the same money, you'd end up with a 286, I think at 12MHz. I used the heck out of it for 6+ years. I had upgraded DRAM to 8MB (8x 1MB SIPPs), and some larger HDD, but I don't remember the details. I think it was Maxtor. If I could, I'd tell my old self to not throw it away.

    catsspatcatsspat9 månader sedan
  • And, for years and years, you'd find these machines in the black-and-white ads of a lot of computer mags at various "low and unbelievable" prices. I seem to remember even a two-fer sale at one point. "An incredible 100% IBM PC COMPATIBLE machine for less than you'd spend on a lawn chair!" Well, DOS compatible anyway. As long as you mean DOS < 2.0.

    Chris CebelenskiChris Cebelenski9 månader sedan
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